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[144.49.247.117]) by smtp-relay.gmail.com with ESMTPS id d9443c01a7336-2c165f9fde9sm15702745ad.30.2026.06.08.00.37.20 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 08 Jun 2026 00:37:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Relaying-Domain: broadcom.com X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected Received: by mail-lj1-f197.google.com with SMTP id 38308e7fff4ca-3967e27c060so19027071fa.0 for ; Mon, 08 Jun 2026 00:37:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=broadcom.com; s=google; t=1780904239; x=1781509039; darn=freebsd.org; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:mime-version:from:to:cc:subject :date:message-id:reply-to; bh=6I/qmKT75hR2w0+RWE/a4x9tO818ZTOE4VIWj9VJlKU=; b=H5Dm3ItonEAAT35HAssmIJs8dcvZIJewffmkmlheoBCTvr4KpPUCshTVZm7+/z9hZ+ s55+C+acj//42p0zraLKsFhrtrP3MEUE3C+zTvuyWbGO2ZgS3KL+XJorSQh5LpcOn7BK jf/D093eaL7dfmgadBqSud8P7rWwBke2uJ4C8= X-Received: by 2002:a2e:2a05:0:b0:394:987:945e with SMTP id 38308e7fff4ca-396d074cfa7mr25421051fa.1.1780904238537; Mon, 08 Jun 2026 00:37:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 2002:a2e:2a05:0:b0:394:987:945e with SMTP id 38308e7fff4ca-396d074cfa7mr25420991fa.1.1780904237904; Mon, 08 Jun 2026 00:37:17 -0700 (PDT) List-Id: Technical discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-hackers List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: List-Owner: Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Yanhui He Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2026 15:36:40 +0800 X-Gm-Features: AVVi8CehmlEGMLhEYKg5aGbpmi_1zXAxlf5sAtQnjixvNF7FJvcjWf54Kzf5NTc Message-ID: Subject: Failed to rebuild autoinstall ISO for freebsd-14.4 and FreeBSD 15.1 with error: Failed adding duplicate name to parent To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, reebsd-current@freebsd.org Cc: Yuhua Zou , "Qi (Keira) Zhang" , Diane Wang , michaelo@freebsd.org X-DetectorID-Processed: b00c1d49-9d2e-4205-b15f-d015386d3d5e Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha-256; boundary="0000000000008c6c010653b91408" X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.09 / 15.00]; SIGNED_SMIME(-2.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.99)[-0.992]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[broadcom.com,reject]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4864::/56]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,multipart/alternative,text/plain]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[broadcom.com:s=google]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:+,3:~,4:~]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MISSING_XM_UA(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[broadcom.com:dkim]; HAS_ATTACHMENT(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_FIVE(0.00)[6]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::663:from]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[broadcom.com:+] X-Spamd-Bar: ------ X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4gYkQb4Ncjz3WT7 --0000000000008c6c010653b91408 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000007acfc30653b91403" --0000000000007acfc30653b91403 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hi, I have reported this PR 1 year ago. https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=287251: Failed to rebuild autoinstall ISO for freebsd-14.4 and FreeBSD 15.1 with error: Failed adding duplicate name to parent However, there has been no progress yet. And Michael Osipov suggested to raise this issue here in https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=287251#c24. ================== Unfortunately, I am not capable because I don't know how the process works. I think it would make sense the raise the issue on hackers@ or current@ mailing lists. ================== Would you please take a look and help to fix this issue? Thank you! Yanhui --0000000000007acfc30653b91403 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,

I have reported this PR = 1 year ago.

https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug= .cgi?id=3D287251: Failed to rebuild autoinstall ISO for freebsd-14.4 an= d FreeBSD 15.1 with error: Failed adding duplicate name to parent

However, there has been no progress yet.

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t capable because I don't know how the process works. I think it would =
make sense the raise the issue on hackers@ or current@ mailing lists.
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Would you please take a look and help to fix this issue?

Thank you!
Yanhui
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And Michael Osipov suggested to raise this issue here in https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=287251#c24. ================== Unfortunately, I am not capable because I don't know how the process works. I think it would make sense the raise the issue on hackers@ or current@ mailing lists. ================== Would you please take a look and help to fix this issue? Thank you! Yanhui --000000000000988ce40653b92407 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


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Hi,

I have reported this PR 1= year ago.

https://bugs.freebsd.org/= bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D287251: Failed to rebuild autoinstall ISO fo= r freebsd-14.4 and FreeBSD 15.1 with error: Failed adding duplicate name to= parent

However, there has been no progress yet.

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Unfortunately, I am not capable because I don't know how the proces=
s works. I think it would make sense the raise the issue on hackers@ or cur=
rent@ mailing lists.
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Would you please take a look an= d help to fix this issue?

Thank you!
Yan= hui
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<6d1d90b8-432a-4202-8d63-eb752913e315@FreeBSD.org> Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2026 12:06:54 -0500 List-Id: Technical discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-hackers List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: List-Owner: Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: rights(4) split? CAP_WRITE -> CAP_WRITE_DATA + CAP_WRITE_CTRL To: Mark Johnston Cc: Mariusz Zaborski , "freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org" , freebsd-arch@freebsd.org, pjd@freebsd.org References: <7f5f2137-bd4d-4e27-8049-cf585849103e@FreeBSD.org> <4feb230b-635e-4eca-8d9e-f89df2ad1377@FreeBSD.org> Content-Language: en-US From: Kyle Evans In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 6/3/26 15:46, Mark Johnston wrote: > On Wed, Jun 03, 2026 at 09:15:11AM -0500, Kyle Evans wrote: >> On 6/3/26 03:04, Mariusz Zaborski wrote: >>> Hello, >>> >>> I think the idea of splitting CAP_WRITE into CAP_WRITE_DATA and CAP_WRITE_CTRL makes sense, especially for cases where a process should be able to exchange data but not transfer file descriptors. >>> >>> From my perspective, the biggest concern is the capability change itself. While source compatibility can largely be preserved by making CAP_WRITE an alias for CAP_WRITE_DATA | CAP_WRITE_CTRL, there is still some potential for compatibility issues with existing applications and binaries that rely on the current semantics of CAP_WRITE. >>> >> >> My alternative proposal would be that we slice off two entirely new bits in index 1 and still make `CAP_WRITE` an alias, but rename the current assignment to `CAP_WRITE_COMPAT`. We don't have any precedent for it, but I'd then handle translation at the cap_rights_*(2) border and unset the new `CAP_WRITE` if `CAP_WRITE_COMPAT` is unset when limiting, and unset `CAP_WRITE_LEGACY` if *either* of the new `CAP_WRITE_*` rights are missing. > Hi, Thought I responded to you, but it looks like I just internalized some of your ideas and responded to someone else referencing them. *sigh* > Just a couple of comments: > - Why CAP_WRITE_* instead of CAP_SEND_*? CAP_WRITE and CAP_SEND are > aliased today, but now that you're introducing rights specific to > sockets, CAP_SEND_* seems clearer. I hadn't considered that perspective- presumably it doesn't change the underlying semantics and CAP_WRITE/CAP_SEND still grant both of the CAP_SEND_* rights? That seems fine... I note that CAP_PWRITE and CAP_MMAP_W are interesting cases that include CAP_WRITE: these could be scoped down to CAP_SEND_DATA with the new model, but I don't think that's a problem to try and do- just a case that would need to be documented and well-communicate, in case anyone needed a full CAP_SEND. I suspect that's not the case, since you're not mmap()ing a socket, at least... pwrite(2) is probably a different story. > - Rather than allocating new bits, maybe we should consider repurposing > some indices which are only used with other file types? For instance, > CAP_PDKILL can only ever apply to procdescs, CAP_INOTIFY_* only apply > to inotify descriptors, etc.. There are still a fair number of bits > left, but it wouldn't be too hard to run out of them. Is there some > reason we can't define aliased rights? > I think that's fine, too, we just need to be really clear that we're making assumptions about these file types not growing write(2) semantics, for instance. I'm not sure we can do it for these ones in particular, though, because we need them to be combinable with for CAP_PWRITE and CAP_MMAP_W. While looking at CAP_PWRITE and CAP_MMAP_W, I realized there was a huge gap between CAP_ALL0 and CAP_UNUSED0*... I posted a change to clean up our representation of the unused bits: https://reviews.freebsd.org/D57505 because the fchroot(2) addition wiped out the beginning of the range and made it look like we only have one bit left there. 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To: Bakul Shah Cc: Dan Shelton , freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.71 / 15.00]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; ARC_ALLOW(-1.00)[google.com:s=arc-20240605:i=1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.98)[-0.979]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.74)[-0.735]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20251104]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2a00:1450:4864::/56]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; FREEMAIL_CC(0.00)[gmail.com,freebsd.org]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com:dkim]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; RCVD_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; MISSING_XM_UA(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org]; TAGGED_RCPT(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROMTLD(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::62b:from]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com] X-Spamd-Bar: --- X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4gZYJQ4PTQz49xN On Mon, May 18, 2026 at 3:39=E2=80=AFPM Bakul Shah wr= ote: > > On May 18, 2026, at 2:26=E2=80=AFPM, Dan Shelton wrote: > > > > On Fri, 20 Feb 2026 at 01:21, Bakul Shah wrote: > >> > >> On Feb 19, 2026, at 11:45=E2=80=AFAM, Dan Shelton wrote: > >>> > >>> On Wed, 18 Feb 2026 at 22:45, Dan Shelton w= rote: > >>>> > >>>> Hello, > >>>> > >>>> Has anyone tried a BHYVE with a disk as file on a NFSv4.2 mount? > >> > >> Yes. [I tried this on a 15.0-RELEASE-p3 host, nfsv4.2 mounting > >> a filesystem from a 15.0-STABLE machine] > > > > How about the performance? Is it better than iSCSI? > > I don't know about iSCSI but comparing with p9fs: > > Test1: > dd bs=3D1m count=3D4000 > /dev/null < large-file > > nfsV3: > 32.3 > 46.3 > 51.3 > > nfsV4: > 129.1 > 59.9 > 48.8 > > p9fs: > 17.7 > 17.5 > 17.6 > > Test2: > find /usr/src/ > /dev/null > > nfsV3: > 60.0 > 39.0 > 30.9 > > nfsV4: > 54.0 > 17.9 > 35.8 > > p9fs: > 6.9 > 6.5 > 6.6 > > > So slower in all cases. In addition the variability in nfs numbers is con= cerning! > > p9fs doesn't cache but nfs does, so anything cached is served much faster= . 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From: Bakul Shah In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2026 10:02:25 -0700 Cc: Dan Shelton , freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <725FEEE6-D75E-4D75-B464-008B2678120B@iitbombay.org> References: To: Rick Macklem X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3864.600.51.1.1) X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.50 / 15.00]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[iitbombay.org,quarantine]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[iitbombay.org:s=google]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4864::/56]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[iitbombay.org:+]; FREEMAIL_CC(0.00)[gmail.com,freebsd.org]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; FREEFALL_USER(0.00)[bakul]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; TAGGED_RCPT(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::132c:from] X-Spamd-Bar: -- X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4gZZwK54C5z4Lyw On Jun 9, 2026, at 8:49=E2=80=AFAM, Rick Macklem = wrote: >=20 > On Mon, May 18, 2026 at 3:39=E2=80=AFPM Bakul Shah = wrote: >>=20 >> On May 18, 2026, at 2:26=E2=80=AFPM, Dan Shelton = wrote: >>>=20 >>> On Fri, 20 Feb 2026 at 01:21, Bakul Shah = wrote: >>>>=20 >>>> On Feb 19, 2026, at 11:45=E2=80=AFAM, Dan Shelton = wrote: >>>>>=20 >>>>> On Wed, 18 Feb 2026 at 22:45, Dan Shelton = wrote: >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Hello, >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Has anyone tried a BHYVE with a disk as file on a NFSv4.2 mount? >>>>=20 >>>> Yes. [I tried this on a 15.0-RELEASE-p3 host, nfsv4.2 mounting >>>> a filesystem from a 15.0-STABLE machine] >>>=20 >>> How about the performance? Is it better than iSCSI? >>=20 >> I don't know about iSCSI but comparing with p9fs: >>=20 >> Test1: >> dd bs=3D1m count=3D4000 > /dev/null < large-file >>=20 >> nfsV3: >> 32.3 >> 46.3 >> 51.3 >>=20 >> nfsV4: >> 129.1 >> 59.9 >> 48.8 >>=20 >> p9fs: >> 17.7 >> 17.5 >> 17.6 >>=20 >> Test2: >> find /usr/src/ > /dev/null >>=20 >> nfsV3: >> 60.0 >> 39.0 >> 30.9 >>=20 >> nfsV4: >> 54.0 >> 17.9 >> 35.8 >>=20 >> p9fs: >> 6.9 >> 6.5 >> 6.6 >>=20 >>=20 >> So slower in all cases. In addition the variability in nfs numbers is = concerning! >>=20 >> p9fs doesn't cache but nfs does, so anything cached is served much = faster. > At this time it is only a hunch, but I think this might help.. > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-nfsv4-uncacheable-files/ Just to clarify, if data is cached, NFS is usually much faster; but the above tests didn't have any caching effect. In general caching can be a win but it is more that the 9p protocol *can't* do caching - no way to specify cache invalidation etc. > I plan on implementing this soon for FreeBSD. 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