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On 8/2/26 13:37, Gerard A wrote:
> The error message is after updating it panics because the amd drivers 
> are now broken

   Was this 15.1-RELEASE-p1 -> 15.1-RELEASE-p2 or were you upgrading 
from a different version?

> But the real issue is that after trying to remove the amdgpu shit from 
> loader.conf rc.conf

   amdgpu should only be in rc.conf and not loader.conf.

> And running freebsd-update rollback
> 
> My zfs pool is no longer mountable
> No longer visible with zfs import and
> 
> zdb, pointed at the partitions,  returns.
> Failed to unpack label 0 / 1 / 2 / 3 / 4?

   I presume you didn't get that far due to amdgpu panic but did you 
take any manual steps to update the zpool after upgrade?
   Do you have ZFS boot environments? Running `bectl list` should 
display entries if so and the boot loader should offer to pick different 
entries.
   I haven't used `freebsd-update rollback` but presume that shouldn't 
happen. If no bug report already exists for it and the issue doesn't 
point to something else then it would likely be very good to make sure a 
problem report is created and tracked specifically for this.

> So its totally fucked now for reasons that are not clear at all...  How 
> does that happen to both disks of RAID1

   RAID1 does not offer any protection against software error and user 
error; that is what backups, and less so zpool checkpoints, and even 
less so zfs snapshots, and least so boot environments help against. If a 
drive failed or its data was corrupted then RAID1 helps but when the 
user or program performs any change to the data it goes to both disks. 
An update that makes amdgpu unusable goes to both disks. Any 
freebsd-update related failure goes to both disks.
   UEFI and older BIOS based boot loaders are written to disk outside of 
ZFS. I don't use freebsd-update but I thought it was still left up to 
the user to update the boot loader separately and that it didn't execute 
any ZFS commands other than stuff to create boot environments; I don't 
know if rollback will delete created boot environments but if you 
weren't actively doing anything with them then you should have still 
been on one called 'default' both before and after upgrade with the only 
question being if it rollback deleted or picked the previously created 
boot environment but I'd doubt it does either.
   If you don't want an activity to impact both disks, you can split or 
offline one of the two disks but while separated you will lose the 
protections that RAID normally offers your data.

> On 3 August 2026 6:08:52 am AEST, Paul Beard <paulbeard@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>     The error messages and diagnostic information you meant to send
>     seems to have gotten lost. Please try resending that and maybe
>     somebody can help you.
>     --
>     This space intentionally left blank.
> 
>         On Aug 2, 2026, at 12:58 PM, Gerard A
>         <geeaye.soletrader@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>         ﻿
>         Love how i had a working system and now i don't because i
>         updated.... For fucks sake cunts
> 
> 


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Subject: 'fetch' fails with 'crates.io'
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Fetch continually fails when downloading a file from "crates.io." However, if I try the same address from a Windows 11 PRO machine without using fetch, it connects instantly and downloads the file without a problem.

I stopped the first attempt to download the file after about 5 minutes. Using poudriere, these attempts to download from "crates.io" continue indefinitely. I then manually invoked 'fetch'. The output shows fetch cannot get the IP address. I have no idea what is wrong or how to proceed.

root /usr/ports/www/deno # make fetch
===>   NOTICE:

The deno port currently does not have a maintainer. As a result, it is
more likely to have unresolved issues, not be up-to-date, or even be removed in
the future. To volunteer to maintain this port, please create an issue at:

https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla

More information about port maintainership is available at:

https://docs.freebsd.org/en/articles/contributing/#ports-contributing

===>  License MIT accepted by the user
===>   deno-2.9.1_2 depends on file: /usr/local/sbin/pkg - found
=> rust/crates/Inflector-0.11.4.crate doesn't seem to exist in /usr/ports/distfiles.
=> Attempting to fetch https://crates.io/api/v1/crates/Inflector/0.11.4/download?dummy=/rust/crates/Inflector-0.11.4.crate
^C^C*** Signal 2

root /usr/ports/www/deno # fetch -v https://crates.io/api/v1/crates/Inflector/0.11.4/download?dummy=/rust/crates/Inflector-0.11.4.crate
resolving server address: crates.io:443
SSL options: 82004850
Peer verification enabled
Using OpenSSL default CA cert file and path
Verify hostname
TLSv1.3 connection established using TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256
Certificate subject: /CN=crates.io
Certificate issuer: /C=BE/O=GlobalSign nv-sa/CN=GlobalSign Atlas R3 DV TLS CA 2025 Q4
requesting https://crates.io/api/v1/crates/Inflector/0.11.4/download?dummy=/rust/crates/Inflector-0.11.4.crate
302 redirect to https://static.crates.io/crates/Inflector/Inflector-0.11.4.crate
resolving server address: static.crates.io:443
SSL options: 82004850
Peer verification enabled
Using OpenSSL default CA cert file and path
Verify hostname
TLSv1.3 connection established using TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256
Certificate subject: /CN=static.crates.io
Certificate issuer: /C=BE/O=GlobalSign nv-sa/CN=GlobalSign Atlas R3 DV TLS CA 2025 Q3
requesting https://static.crates.io/crates/Inflector/Inflector-0.11.4.crate
fetch: transfer timed out
fetch: Inflector-0.11.4.crate appears to be truncated: 0/17438 bytes

-- 
Jerry

